The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's greatest heroes. It would also destroy the. Win by death, KO, incap PR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. Pre-retcon Molecule Man hasn't paid his taxes in like, 10 years, since he's been been galavanting around the universe. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Victory by permanent death or erasure. PR Beyonder's best feat is embodying a realm beyond the multiverse. No, they can't adapt to. Wiki Points. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. #1. Friend showed me a comic on this guy about a year ago,told me it was a very popular fan- fic,I was orginally going to make this my first thread but IPre Retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. His isn't from another universe. He's more PR Beyonder level imo. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Following Secret. The Two fight in the beyond realm. " @Pr_Beyonder said: " @AtPhantom said: "The wiki is kinda correct, since he gained the power of omega beams when he acquired the effect. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. -5. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. @kingant27 said:. Forum Posts. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. So even at a lower power level, Lucifer may still beat him. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Wiki Points. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. FollowAny who PR Beyonder wins against any Jesus since his only "feats" are raising the dead, reviving after 3 days, turning water into wine and some other bits of lesser magic. Gen. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Taikyoku is the beginning of all. 13 years ago. 1344. This is a toss up. Warlockmage. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Team 1 wins. Lord Urizen. I don't know what handbook that text appeared in trying to retcon a retcon, but canonically, beyonders are responsible for the. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. Don't worry give it couple of hours and you will see people saying that Odin solo the scpverse Anyway I meant that R3 = R4 = R5, TOAA. Magic, on the other hand, is stuff you can’t do with science, it’s the realm of basically gods in Fate. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. It has been shown that in Guardians of The Galaxy (1990) #49-50 that The Living Tribunal has judgement over the Beyonder, the same Beyonder people consider to be the PR Beyonder (PR = Pre-Retconned) which iirc takes place around the same time in Fantastic Four (1961) #319 or at the very least has similar continuity. ". 8 years ago. Who do you think is the strongest in Marvel? Who do you think is the strongest in DC? If they fight who will win???Sure, baby 400 tonner mark LOL, also he made a weird noise just as PR Beyonder made a noise when hulk slammed him. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. @laflux said: MOM. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. Round 1: No prep time. #1 KalKent1297. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. Couple of things; 1) It's a bit disingenuous to insinuate that I'm claiming that Flash has no limits. MM solo's. This topic is locked from further discussion. anyways Q isn't omnipotent either and he doesn't have any feats that rival PR Beyonder so PR Beyonder. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. 0. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. u/nullfather can attest to that. dope matchup. unicron wins and heres why. The beat LT list is: TOAA, anyone with the Heart of the Universe, PR Beyonder, PR Moleculeman, MoM The match or near match LT list is: and experienced Infinity Gauntlet User The upscale but still. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. 1. 0. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Win by death, KO, incap. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Side note: I'm using this version of. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Jul 30, 2018. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Follow 88. agreed the PR beyonder was kind of like a super amped version of the loeb force 13 years ago. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Location. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. I think Beyonder wins based on feats. Random encounter. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesPR-Beyonder being from outside of the Living Tribunals domain (whoch he has ultimate judgement over) was really his only weakness. Wiki Points. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. #1. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. #1. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Ultra (Ultraman) 4. PR Beyonder. master. Having incubated. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Even 16D beings like LT, Eternity are nowhere as powerful as PR Beyonder, so Beyonder still wins, deal with it. The original purpose of PR Beyonder was an equal of TOAA from his own Actuality. Reviews: 4. Follow 10594. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. Flagged (sorry!) 11 years ago. Maybe some people will think or debate that PR Beyonder or Oblivion wins against the All-Mighty. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. Forum Posts. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". PR Beyonder is avobe angels and HOTU Thanos is at presence level as I read in "The End" comics. Comic Writters>Comic characters, the PR beyonder was stated to be the representation of the writters in the comic in that they could do they anything and that they were beyond anything in the comic thus the name "The Beyonder". 14 years ago. I need to know please New Comics. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. PM not so much. The unfortunate thing is that Lucifer and Michael best most of the characters listed there,and only really get stalemated by like 2. i wanna hear mr. g2_ Follow 14321. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. This is Beyonders not the famous PR Beyonder. TOAA is above all. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. Follow 3313. Forum Posts. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. He's an Evil Genius AND an Evil Sorceror who lives in a Dracula-castle. His. " 13 years ago Pr_BeyonderRandom encounter. M. LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. He's in seriouLiving Tribunal has been repeatedly demolished by reality warpers who have total control over the multiverse. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. New Comics. 3rd. Who is a better god like figure? This thread is archived. Follow 3068. edit2: One big gotcha I should mention. 0. Overthinks_Questions • 1 yr. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. 8 years ago. 11 years ago. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. Doom. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. This is a massive mismatch. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. @mazeraiii said: Beyonder solo's. #41 cdavis6149. Kuuko273. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. He changed the match from ssj2 Goku vs Jin Mori to Sai vs Beyonder lol. #9 Edited By Supreme Marvel. Brainiac is a hive consciousness that. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. Living Tribunal. Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. (Cuz there are none. "GL Kilowog >Odin Thor? "Perhaps not in sheer power, but in implementation. Reply reply more replies. FollowHere's the deal. Follow 6024. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Marvel (and DC for that matter) didn’t have anythin beyond Multiverses back then in their cosmology. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. A universe that is more powerful. 2 years ago. Forums. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. 14 years ago Lance. Beyonder solos. I almost think they should be banned. FinalStar86. Beyonder was TOAA before creation or with more precise words, he. Michael doesn't really have a lot in the way of feats, other than statements by other characters and some. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line. 7 years ago. Just wanna point out, nexus beyonder is a thing, the goblin queen merged with beyonder corpse and gained part of his essence. A universe that is more powerful than the multiverse. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. Composite Batman includes the Darkest Knight and he’s broken as fuck. If it's spiderman with the power of PR Beyonder then he should win. @claymore1998: Not once was PR Beyonder stated to be second only to TOAA. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. PR Beyonder still wins unless of course that's MF Mxy which I doubt it is (and even if it was some idiot would argue that actually being able to change the beyonder into a turd doesn't count for. This group is a joke compared to Celestials. Unkindness Raven vs PR Beyonder TheDevil98. Beyonder easily. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. 0. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. Followers. Forum Posts. No. FollowComposite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. Holo-Man • 3 yr. m99. 13 votes, 12 comments. 2. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. level 2 · 1y. #1. 7. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. Reviews: 1. If The Presence go to Beyond-verse (the pre-retconed one) or to Marvel , he will lose against TOAA or PR Beyonder because he won't be omnipotent there. This isn't a battle,Its an execution. 1. 11 years ago. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. He is overrated which makes people think he is this untouchable character but he would get smoked by LT. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. A . The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Gen. And the LT he beat was undefined. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. Follow 334. Follow 8649. There are like at least dozens DC. 0. Follow 8935. PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Michael Demiurgos >> Pre-Retcon Beyonder >>>>> Battler. LT was literally powerless, didn't even try to battle him. Yes: PR beyonder, PR molecule man, toaa, toba, toba. Trigon took over 12 universes as a child and destroyed countless more. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. LocatiNew Comics. 4 years ago. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. . PF wont last 1 minute in the fight. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. If Doom goes at full confidence in. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. Primal monitor has done zilch, but its implied that he was similar to PR beyonder. Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. • 1 year ago. RULES:Morals off. MM has the powers of the Beyonders, the Beyonders were still linear beings constrained and restricted by time, they were able to be killed by overwhelming power like Starbrand,. So LT + Abstracts + Ultimate Nullifier + other beings of the whole multi-verse other than Molecule. Forums. And even then some endless beat pr beyonder. (unless he wills himself otherwise alla Rachel Summers. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel. Beyonder escaped. Black winter lost to king thor with the power of galactus. ago. ShootingNova. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. That scales on the top dogs of each omniverse. ago. Even with her 50/50 negated by her spear, Gungnir, Othinus is in no way comparable to the likes of PR Beyonder or even Beyonder post-retcon. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis) The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in. I am guessing since you said The Beyonder rather than A Beyonder you mean PR Beyonder, in which case he stomps. Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. Beyonder by just being angry caused multiversal destruction. Round 1: CAS vs. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. Gen. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. He. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). The Living Tribunal, PR-Beyonder, PR-Molecule Man, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, HOTU Thanos, Scathan the Approver, Mister Mxyzptlk. LT did not get involved in the Beyonder/Owen fight, because he knew he was outmatched, and Owen was the multiverse's only hope. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics. PR Beyonder stomps this team. R3: Pre-Crisis Superman. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. How far does he get? R1: The Justice League (Post-Crisis) R2: Superboy Prime. Doctor Doom can steal/absorb power from PR Beyonder, Galactus, Asgardians, Nightmare, Life Force (Reality warping from HoM) etc but couldn't defeat Onslught? That is inconsistent. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. Oh wait that would mean auto win to Marvel. but a little known dc character, part of the vertigo universe, Saints of Killers. Mad Jim Jaspers Vs. Adm1ralSnackbar. Pokergeist. . The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. Jul 30, 2018. Followers. 0. Lord Urizen. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. @Pr_Beyonder: Yes. K. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Mike+Luxy would be at least equal to PR Beyonder/Molecule Man/Mandrakk/Living Tribunal. The art work and what not is horrible. Reviews. Because PR Beyonder was a multiverse personified, so does that mean that each of these new Beyonders are also their own Multiverse? No. But if you will include that "symbol of heroism/needed for the story" crap, then remove the beyonder. Who is a better god like figure? PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. Posts. The Presence. I don't know a. Casually Oneshotting all of dc is beyond anything pr beyonder or any beyonders have ever done. I just think with 15 minutes, they can pull something off. Followers. Follow 3935. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. His will is law. ) The main issue here would be whether Beyonder. You can't claim the same about Asura's. (The bKorvac wields Power Cosmic. PRB has a lot of. Wiki Points. I almost think they should be banned. And PR Beyonder is possibly the most ridiculously powerful. I forget her name. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. PR Beyonder and it’s not a fight. Basically this. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. And the LT he beat was undefined. . Forum Posts. #12 Edited By Montaq. Another statement made about. PR beyonder. vs. Build Your Own Omnitrix. elaine ftw. 1958325779 • 2 yr. Wiki Points. Nothing more needs to be said. Or that the enitre multiverse was stated to be a mere droplet of water. Nihilist. they have quite the lineup. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Post-Retcon Beyonder on the other hand is only a Cube Being, so is much weaker. To put it simply, PR Beyonder barely thinks of destroying John Constantine, in. 13 years ago. This topic is locked from further discussion. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. Forum Posts. 13 years agoAnything they can do the PR beyonder can do if not even do better. During Secret Wars 1985 the Beyonder wanted Rachel to destroy the M‘Kraan Crystal, which would erase the multiverse from existence. u/nullfather can attest to that. ReplyOkay so i want to go to war with the JLA and I'd like to build a team from Viners to do so. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. PR Beyonder is barley baseline just through making the beyond verse. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Thanos with HOTU vs PR is still argued but do note all the cosmics were begging PR MM to fight Beyonder. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. The Beyonder First Appeared In 'Secret Wars'. The Overvoid could be the Beyond-Realm before PR Molecule Man created a pinpoint in the Beyond-Realm to the Earth-616 universe. Likewise, nothing in Toaru would even constitute a threat to the lowliest monsters in the Scarlet King's army. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. lannfear. Beyonder is the bigger god. Just no. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. Forum Posts. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. So yeah, this is the same Beyonder that had PR Molecule Man crying on Vulcana's lap and decimated the entire multiverse just by getting angry. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. 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